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Howdy pardner...

I'd like to welcome you to this here page o'mine, which has been whipped up in no time flat to give some support and outside discussion to the presently stunned Mambo open source project and community.

Why you say? What the heck is this all about? Well pilgrim, you've found yer way to just the place ya'll need to be to get those queries answered. Sure 'nuff this here place is where we can maybe have a chuckle over what's been goin' down of late, maybe even open some eyes to where this all could be headed.

So kick back in front o' the fire and we'll spin some yarns about what could be the biggest showdown Mambo has ever seen in the ol' west

Thankye kindly fer visitin',

The Lone Mamber

Friday, September 02, 2005

Begley begs, "If you want to build OSM templates, go to OSM."

On my jaunts out into the badlands that have become the boards at the ol' homestead, I seen some mighty odd behaviour of late. Seems like Miro are employin' some of the meanest low down fuzzy haired varmits (trolls I hear ya call 'em) ya'll could find over there.

With all the hoo-ha over the split lately the community has had it's say, and loudly, with a handful of non-miro employed supporters on the other side. Most of whom conducted themselves in the manner of pigs in shit, and some of those recently became the new posse of Mamboserver forum moderators...

What's come of this lunacy? Well, besides a slew of post deletions, community member banning, and the whole place becomin' a bit of a ghost town... Actually, that's it mostly.

As a for instance, there's been a very heavy bit of brawlin' between Mr Jim Begley and a developer who'd released his template on the ol' Mamboforge and on the mamboserver forums, even tho the thing had an OpenSourceMatters theme to it. Hardly a crime I'd reckon, but apparently the new gang in town has some right odd concepts about what's right and wrong...

Postin' over there as "idigital", he seems to have been around the scene for a while as I found an old interview on that mamboportal about him. He released a "backend template" lately, that alters your Mambo admin to give it an OpenSourceMatters theme. After postin' on the OpenSourceMatters forum, I've been told he posted a few notes on the ol' homestead as well and they were deleted without notice.

Mr. Begley, the only Foundation board member that aint under the employ of Miro (as far as we know, anyways), has made a few odd remarks about these eventuatin' circumstances...

From the "Ill treatment of Third Party Developer's release announcement", started by idigital, Jim Begley defends his fuzzy haired moderators actions and tells us how he reckons 3PD input and community involvement work out under the new Sherriff:

"If you want to build OSM specific content......
put it on OSM. The same would apply if you want to build content for any other CMS application. What belongs in these forums is posts relating to Mambo content, not OSM or other CMS's.

To say that you have been treated unfairly is inaccurate. Your post was off topic, and you know that.

If you are so jazzed about working on OSM, please go to it. Why waste everyones time here? You are a talented guy, go use those talents to where you will be constructive."

Ah, poor ol' Begley, given such a position of the Foundation board and unable to cope with the simple task of comprehendin' what's goin' around him. Harsh, you say? Well, maybe, but for Mr. Begley to claim that OpenSourceMatters is a "CMS application" is vergin' on the mentally deficient. Surely it's obvious that OSM was an intiative, and that Joomla is the new drivin' force of the project formerly known as Mambo...

So what he's sayin' here, is that this template made for Mambo itself, aint welcome in the Foundation's community due to it havin' the words Open Source Matters on it.

Some would say there's a whack of irony to be had right there. Someone make 'em a banner "When Open Source Matters - Get Out!" or the like.
"It was clearly branded for OSM. If it got submitted without the branding, there would be no issues.

Our logic is sound, it just may not be to your liking. What happened in the past with a Plesk issue is the past. If you want to build OSM templates, go to OSM."
Yeah, and I've seen templates "branded" with all kinds of stuff and released without any fuss. It's just a design, anyone can go and change a few images and even make it into a Mambo Beta template. Aint that the point of open source?

Well, unless the point of this is censorin' the template from the community, so it can be made into a Mambo beta template...
"It was not a constructive post to the Mambo community. It was handled appropriately."
So there we have it, from the nervous typin' fingers of a Foundation board member, what they says goes and if we don't like it we can shove it.

Frankly, I'd rather shove an OSM template in the Mambo backend, thanks to the good work of that idigital. Can't seem to get hold of the guy for this report tho, but surely I'll have a word with him in good time.

Couldn't get hold of Mr. Begley either, 'cos he's just such a slimey snake it aint possible to keep a grip. Ah, don't mind this ol' cowboy, I don't mean to offend none (was that one of them disclaimers?).

I did get hold of Lawrence (absalom) who's been seriously workin' at makin' some sense of these varmits and has just been rewarded by some more clumsy words from Mr. Begley and a ban from the ol' homestead besides. Seems to be a very serious young man but much obligin' to share his story with this ol' cowboy and ya'll. Well, there were a bunch of words so I'll stick em into the next blog post for ease of readin'.

Thankye kindly pilgrims,

The Lone Mamber