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Howdy pardner...

I'd like to welcome you to this here page o'mine, which has been whipped up in no time flat to give some support and outside discussion to the presently stunned Mambo open source project and community.

Why you say? What the heck is this all about? Well pilgrim, you've found yer way to just the place ya'll need to be to get those queries answered. Sure 'nuff this here place is where we can maybe have a chuckle over what's been goin' down of late, maybe even open some eyes to where this all could be headed.

So kick back in front o' the fire and we'll spin some yarns about what could be the biggest showdown Mambo has ever seen in the ol' west

Thankye kindly fer visitin',

The Lone Mamber

Wednesday, August 31, 2005

MamboLove spreads your IP!

Ok, so here's a shockin' development right here folks...

I just moseyed on over to check my Love Points, and was amazed to discover that anyone can see anyone elses stats without even being logged in!

Not only that, you get to see the IPs of every unfortunate pilgrim that wanders over there from your Love badge.

"Weeell, he's the leader of Love, alright!"

Checkout my Love Points so far (link not relevant, removed from program). Looks like this lone mamber is the Leader of Love! How's them potatoes.

This here seems like a major security problem over at MamboLove.com, and don't bode well for the future development of Mambo either come to think of it.

Just so ya'll know pilgrims.

Thankye kindly,

The Lone Mamber


Miro spreads the bullsh... love!

Well, this is a right oddly occurrence in the lead up to the new project name announcement...

Miro International, seemingly, have launched a propaganda site under the name of Mambolove.com. I say seemingly 'cos it aint rightly clear who is responsible, but it has their copyright on it.

In the same line as the popular SpreadFirefox initiative, Mambolove has a banner program that allows users to promote the site from their own sites and such. Altho it could be said those varmits have taken their inspiration from the ol' "Publicity and Advocacy" board on the mamboserver forums, where last year a few pilgrims put forth the concept of SpreadMambo or GoMambo.

Oh, coincidence you say? Well aint it odd that if you pop over to SpreadMambo.com it takes you straight to the "love".

Ironic aint it? Miro proclaiming their love for themselves after showing so little for the hard workin' team that built what they're promotin', or the community that has long supported it. Why I'd hardly call all the deletin' and bannin' goin' on over at the ol' forums any kind of love.

No sir-ee bob.

So let's have a mosey on around their new digs and see what we can see...

First up, there's "Spread the Love":

If you are using Mambo or heard of it and absolutely love it, just like the millions out there and would like to help us spread the word of this amazing Open Source Content Management System (CMS), it is simple.
Heard of it and absolutely love it? Them's messy arrangin' of words, sounds like they're expectin' us to love it just from hearin' about it. Why I believe even this ol' cowboy has a better hold of the language. But I get off the point there don't I...

We want to invite you to become a Mambo Lover and to show your support for this great system, to start just sign up here.
Ah, I see, even if you love Mambo, you have to be invited to become a Mambo Lover. That's almost as backwards as payin' $1000 to develop free addons for the varmits software...

As a Mambo Lover, you will receive the latest news and events updates on the happenings in the Mambo world and most importantly the sooner you get a Mambo Love badge or link on your site, the sooner you will start collecting your Love points.

Oh goody, I do so love meat in a can, especially direct to my mailbox. Better sign up now!

But wait, what's this? Love points!!! Ohhh, I wonder if I can cash them down at Miss Philly's House of Ladies...

We recognize the efforts of our community and we want to show our appreciation of your efforts in helping to spread the word of Mambo around so we've started Love points.
Oh, those kind of love points. So, how does it go again? First you get de moneeeey, den you get de poooower, den we get de looooove points!

Shame they can't be cashed in for de weeeeemeeeen...

The concept is simple, whenever visitors click on the Mambo Love link on your website, emails or blogs, you will start collecting Love points, one click one point*.
Joy of joys, we get a love point for every unsuspectin' pilgrim we sends their way. But what do we get for that, that shows Miro's appreciation of our efforts?

The top 5 Mambo Lovers, with the highest number of Love points will be honored on the Love Scoreboard, which is updated in real-time. We think it is important to acknowledge the top performers and to give the others a little motivation.

We get our username in a list of FIVE others on the front page of Mambolove? What the hell kind of appreciation showin' is that, why I get more appreciation out of Miss Philly's ladies and I tell ya those girls get quite worn out in their line of work.

So, like SpreadFirefox there is a top list of referrers. SpreadFirefox has a top list of 250 referrers tho, and each one is given a link back to their own site from that list, as an incentive. A unlinked up list of five pilgrims, with nothin' to show for anyone below that? So what happens when the five largest sites just keep on referrin' links and stay at the top?

Never mind, ya'll get to show how much you love Miro... I mean Mambo.

As a lil experiment, why doncha go and click on this banner right here, let's see if we can get in the top five eh?

Deflower Mambo For Love!

Looky who is on the top of that thar list! Why it's lily livered Lamont, I knew that smug mug loved himself a bit too much.

Now onto the next area, "World Love":

With Mambo communities all around the world today we would like your help to make Mambo Day happen in every corner. World Love is about spreading Mambo globally, across the borders, interstate, across the ocean, you get the idea.
Yeah, I think I am gettin' the idea. This Mambo Love stuff is all about some marketing mumbo jumbo involving a certain cafe culture lounge lizard lovin' hisself. Oh yeah we can all make pretty words to sound big and official, but when it comes down to it, the guy in charge over there is a smug bugger who cares only for the buck.

World love? I'd think that would have to do with lovin' the world, donatin' to charities or some such. But no, this is about spreading the word of the recently hijacked Mambo project, "you get the idea".

If you are thinking of hosting your very own Mambo Day, write to us and tell us where you are from and your ideas, we want to help you kick-start your Mambo Day project. If you have a great idea for other Mambo-related events and need help to get started, we would like to help as well. All you need to do is to submit your proposal for the kind of event you have in mind.
Here we go again, makin' out like they haven't just stolen someone elses thinkin'. Why, I remember a quite successful Mambo Day event held over in Europe that was planned since last year, and that dint have naught to do with this Miro bullock scrotum. There's a whole forum devoted to it over on Mambers forums...

Every proposal submission will be taken into consideration, if your proposal has been accepted, we will provide you with the information you need to start your own Mambo event, put you in touch with the people who will be able to help you plan your event and in some cases Mambo communities will offer financial subsidaries* as well.

* Financial subsidaries will be considered on case by case basis, which would be subject to the nature of each proposal.
Should change the durn title to "Make My MamboDay" rather than some World Love misleading tomfoolery. Hey, in some cases mambo communities will offer financial subsidiaries! So, ya'll can put an event together for these varmits, and if some other varmit is lucky, they can foot the bill. That's mighty generous, Mr. Lamont.

Aw hell, I get ahead of meself here, I should be consultin' the FAQ first. Oh gawd no, it aint the FAQ here, it's the Frequently Loved Questions (FLQ). I guess all the questions the community has asked so far haven't been so loved then, given the lack of attention they've been given...

Frequently Loved Questions

What is Mambo?

Mambo is a 'free' web-based content management system, which allows its users to create, organise and update content using a web browser, without the need to know the web technicalities usually involved in producing content for the web.

'Free'? Is that free as in free beer, or free as in free as a pilgrim in a noose?

Mambo was developed 5 years ago by Miro International to be a simple to use web publishing system. It was released to the Open Source community and since then has been developed by members of the community into one of the most powerful Open Source Content Management Systems available.

Hey now, this aint right at all. Seems like Miro's spin department are forgetting the dedicated core dev team who have been developin' this thang since Miro dropped it on it's ass to pursue their commercial flop years ago. Varmits.

What is Mambo Love all about?

As a non-profit organization, Mambo Communities have very limited resources at its disposal to market Mambo to the world. Mambo Love has been setup based on the principles of community involvement - much like forum.mamboserver.com, but this site has a focus on the global marketing and advocacy of Mambo.

Mambolove.com has been specifically setup to form a global marketing network to strengthen the marketing and advocacy efforts of Mambo around the world.

Mambo Communities, non-profit organisation run by Miro employess. Hell, this whole thing stinks higher than a varmit in pig shit at noon. Setup on the principles of community involvement? Why is it that the community weren't told none about it on forum.mamboserver.com? I only happened across it while wanderin' thru Mambohub.com which has become what seems to be an advance affiliate...

Who manages the Spread Mambo Love website?

A team of dedicated volunteers from the Mambo community oversee the day-to-day running of the site, this includes updating news and information, managing enquiries etc.

The question, I reckon, was WHO MANAGES THE SPREAD MAMBO LOVE WEBSITE? I aint seein' no answers right there, just a bit of spin that says to me lily livered Lamont and co run the thing. And what do we see here in the question? Spread Mambo Love. Ah. I see.

I spose they realised Spread Mambo weren't highly original, and that GoMambo concept was well and truly cornered by pilgrims that aint too impressed with Miro's behaviour.

The objective of the site is to increase community involvement in the advocacy and marketing of Mambo. If you are interested in becoming part of the team or you know someone who might be, click here to provide us with the relevant information.

Yeah, click away, never mind they aint even bothered to tell anyone who's runnin' that there site...

How can I be involved in Mambo Love?

The simplest way to start is to sign up as an affiliate Mambo Lover. Once you have signed up, add your Mambo badges to your website, blog or in your email signature. And start spreading the Love.

An affiliate Mambo Lover? Sounds like one o' them kinky european menage o' trois situations. That can get right complicated, pilgrims.

Own Some Love Points Today!

So we just haveta add one o' them banners to anywhere at all and then we be spreadin' the Love, eh? Round these parts we'd call that spreadin' the spiced ham in a can, with plenty of cow dung to make a good fertiliser...

What are the perks of being a Mambo Lover?

When you sign up as a Mambo Lover, you will receive:

  • Regular news and event updates
  • Love points

Ok, do I have it right here, that what you get for bein' Miro's obedient lil love pony, is spam in your mailbox and some points that will get you into the top five names to be ridiculed. If you have a big site that can make it to the top that is.

Lovely, we appreciate your efforts, now fight like dogs for our love!

Those Miro characters are down right queer.

What are Love points?

Love points are points awarded to you everytime someone clicks on the Mambo Love link on your website, emails or blogs . It is as simple as, a point for every click-through we get. Love points are setup to recognise members for their effort in helping to spread Mambo. The more points you get the higher you rank on the Love Scoreboard.

Love points, love 'em or hate 'em. Tho I guess the spin here is you'd sound kinda simple if you went around sayin' "I hate love points!". How it's setup to recognise anyone for their effort in the community is beyond me, all it's gonna do is garner Miro some clicks, and a few sites at the top get to show their username in a short list.

Whoopee. Time to celebrate.

My, that load of bullshit has just tired out this ol' cowboy, I reckon I'll catch some shuteye before the real news comes in. New name soon folks, we'll be lookin' ahead, and movin' away from these mutinous varmits and into greener pastures.

Thankye kindly for readin',

The Lone Mamber


Tuesday, August 30, 2005

Project Name Announced!

Well folks, as you may have seen on the OpenSourceMatters homepage, the project formerly known as Mambo will be rebadged and renamed quite soon indeed.

Surely this has to be an excitin' time for the community, and this ol' cowboy can barely contain himself. Time to throw off the yoke of the old, dance referrin' asterisk flowerin' Miro brand and show off the new!

This here's history, pilgrims, and the future of the new project gets the official kick off tomorrow sometime. Well, you can see exactly how much time from the timer in the title right there that I, well, borrowed... Hope my enthusiasm can be excused ;)

If ya'll are readin' this and don't know, the followin' statement has been made in the announcement:

"In order to give those of you with existing *mambo and mambo* domains the opportunity to continue with *newname and newname* we will be providing early notification of the new name.

Those of you with 'mambo' domains that want to receive early notification can fill out the form below."
So if ya'll have a mambo based site name right now, I rightly suggest ya get over there and register while ya can.

Now I reckon I'll go make a pot o' coffee and keep me eyes open for further developments, I'll be keepin' ya'll up to scratch as news comes to hand.


The Lone Mamber


Monday, August 29, 2005

MosCE developer says NO to Miro

Well, seems my inklin' of Miro's movements in the release of their Mambo 4.5.3 Beta were not unfounded, pilgrims...

Yes, they went on ahead and included a 3PD (third party developer) add-on into the core of their release. That is, they took the old dev team's work, made a few tweaks, and whacked in this snazzy MosCE editor to make it look purty. Sure, it's open source, but then the developer of this add-on had publicly stated he would not support Miro's Mambo...

So they went and stuck it in anyway, with nary a nod to the guy or even a wham bam thankye mam. Nuthin'. Zilch. Nada. Pretty much what we've come to expect from them varmits 'round these parts.

Meanwhile what did the developer, known as Happynoodleboy on the boards, have to say about this eventuatin' circumstance? Well, oddly, over the weekend when Miro released their Beta we heard not a peep from the pilgrim. Some of us were even thinkin' maybe those low-down no-good gang of Melburnian coffee swillers had put out some hired gun on the lad and we'd never hear from him again.

But never fear, pardners, the Happynoodleboy has surfaced today and he's agreed to have a chat here about his view on all this...

Welcome pardner, mosey on up to the fire and tell us a bit about yerself, how long ya'll have been usin' Mambo and what brought you to creatin' this MosCE gadget?

"I've been using Mambo for about 10 to 12 months now. I found it after looking for a CMS for my companies website, after getting a little frustrated with the likes of Postnuke and the MDPro fork. Mambo looked so professional and easy to use, and I figured it would fit the bill perfectly. I stll haven't created that site yet :), and to date the only Mambo website I've deployed is my own.

When I first started using Mambo, I was using the HTMLArea wysiwyg editor, but really liked the look of TinyMCE (it was visually appealing more than anything else I suppose, I wasn't really thinking about anything else, like performance, but it was easy to use). I noticed repeated calls for the ability to upload images from the frontend, which you couldn't do with TinyMCE, and which was 'disabled' in the free version of HTMLArea-XTD, so I thought I'd give it a go. I added more and more functionality, the Admin component, and eventually changed the name to mosCE cos there were quite a few users posting questions in the Moxiecode TinyMCE forums. I thought the name change would get rid of the confusion."

So where'd ya get to this past weekend that resulted in your disappearin' for the duration of this release?

"I don't actually have internet access at home, so I found all this out this morning from your initial e-mail. I read the thread in the OSM forum, but the thread was closed before I had a chance to participate in the discussion. I was working on the new mosCE most of this weekend by the way :)"

Surely it must have been quite a surprise comin' back and findin' your hard work included into the new Miro Mambo release, didja ever imagine such a thing?

"Yeah, sure. I don't want to make too big a deal out of it, I didn't cry or anything (I don't think I even swore). I just felt a little put out and dissapointed that something like this would happen. I've always wondered what would happen if someone decided to create a fork of mosCE, and I think that would be great, cos I wouldn't have to offer support for it, but in this instance, it looks like I'm expected to take on that load, without even being asked to do so. I would have appreciated the courtesy of being asked or informed, although I probably would have said no (with good reason)."

I noticed a few statements by yourself about only supportin' the original team's future development with MosCE, where do ya stand on this split between the core and them Miro varmits?

"I think this incident is a good indication of why. The reason a lot of people get involved in and enjoy being a part of Open Source communities like Mambo, or OSM, is because everyone is quite respectful of the development effort, and people go to great lengths to help each other out. There is no direct financial benefit for your effort and work, you do it because its fun, and cos its contributing to a greater something. Miro have forgotten that I think, or they never really bothered to consider it. I think their actions were also incredibly disrespectful of the core developers and the community, and smacked of the type exploitative capitalism I detest."

Have Miro changed anythin' in your release, or otherwise botched it in any way in their Beta?

"No, but they included an older version of the editor mambot, mosCE 1.0beta, and not the newer RC1. I think there were also a few files missing (no list view in the Image Manager), thats all I've noticed so far. They do now claim to be the original authors of some of the files, an example of manager.php (from the Image Manager) * @Original author $Author: mambofoundation $ and the same in the Advanced Link plugin in link.php."

I noticed a link to your site from the configurin' part of MosCE in the Miro release, have you had many queries since for support of what they included and how do you plan to deal with that?

"There have been a couple of posts in the forum, but I haven't had a chance today to see to them. I have since posted an article on my site saying that I won't support queries relating to the 'bundled' mosCE."

Open source is open source, anyone developin' it can expect others to make use of it, has this action from Miro changed the way yer thinkin' about future development?

"No, not really. I will carry on releasing it as LGPL, and eventually it will become dependant on the new CMS. Its just going to be difficult to support all the different users in the interim."

Do ya'll have anythin' to say to other developers out there who may be wonderin' if their creation could be the next sucked into the Miro development quicksand?

"I'm not sure if there is anything we can do about it. If there is a copyright violation I guess we could take it up with them, but the only way I know of to protect your work from them would be to licence it differently?"

Thanks for poppin' by for a chat, pardner, rightly glad you obliged to have your say here.

"My pleasure. Thanks for the opportunity and for bringing this all to my attention!"
There ya go folks, and that Happynoodleboy sure is a good natured pilgrim I must say, if the same had happened to me I don't need to tell ya I'd be out on the plains with guns blazin'.

Now, after bringin' this story and the MJJ Source story to light it's occurred to this ol' cowboy that perhaps ya'll out there may have pertinent stories to share as well on what's goin down in your part of the world since our humble community had it's foundations shook. So if ya'll would like to share with the rest of us anythin' at all, just leave a comment or send me a smoke signal.

I've heard rumour some of ya'll might have had the hard word put on ya by some of them varmits in the antipodean cafe scene, I'd rightly like to hear if this is true...

Till next time pilgrims,

The Lone Mamber


Sunday, August 28, 2005

Who is the Lone Mamber?

Ridin' the frontier of the open source badlands, tellin' it like it is with no recount to no-one so ya'll can get the lowdown on what's been happenin' round these parts, why it's an occupation that aint without it's dangers, pilgrims...

Surely lettin' your view be known in the world we're livin' in today, that can lead to all sorts of nasty endings involvin' the buildin' of wooden structures and the stretchin' of lengths of rope...

For these reasons this ol' cowboy has had to keep his identity unknown, writin' these words day after day with no other motivatin' factor other than to fight the good fight against some no-good low-down varmits who've been doin' their best to despoil the work of our heroic band of core team members and even the community itself.

Now folks, there are some out there who feel the need to unmask this ol' cowboy for who knows what ends, mayhaps they like to build wooden structures and stretch rope. For whatever their reasons, an unmaskin' of this lone mamber would surely lead to grief...

And why? Why would anyone wanna bring the heat down on your humble reporter? Well, cos likely they feel that I'm just voicin' the opinions of many of you, dear readers, and that scares the bejeezus out of 'em...

Since Miro took back the CMS formerly known as Mambo and I began my daily reports on the debacle, well the community has been rightly revolutionary in it's support of the core. We've all been fightin' the good fight against these varmits, and I'm sure that there are some of you out there who given the chance would do what I have done.

I reckon, that in many ways, this ol' blog here reflects the views of the community that supports the core. That in each and every one of us, there's a lil bit of Lone Mamber fightin' away for justice and freedom.

That when that day comes someone points the stick and demands "Who is the Lone Mamber?", ya'll won't feel a moments hestitatin' in respondin'...

"I'm the Lone Mamber!"

The storm's comin', friends, I know I won't have to ride it out alone.

Thankye kindly for yer support,

The Lone Mamber


Friday, August 26, 2005

Miro supersizes 4.5.3!

What's with the wacky title on this post, you ask? Well there's shockin' news at the front, those scallywags at Miro have released the next version of Mambo and it's more than doubled in size, for no real gain.

With no doubt some irony, it's called 4.5.3 Beta, not that it's been thru a proper alpha phase at all, or it seems much testin' of this lame donkey of an "upgrade".

Well, I'm overstatin' the thing there, it aint even an upgrade. There's no way to move up from your current release to this new version, not that ya'll would want to anyway.

To be fair, a beta release aint sposed to be an upgrade, it's for testin' by people who feel like testin', not for live sites. In the announcement tho Miro has this to say "Click here to download and test drive", the poor unsuspectin' pilgrims would barely know what an unstable ride that could be...

So, let's take a tour of this stagecoach crash...

First thing I notice, there seems to be a few problems with the display of the copyright symbol in the installer. Must be some bad shaman magic goin' down there, karma if you're more inclined to smokin' tumbleweeds.

Then funnily enough in the default content, Mambo License, I find this juicy nugget:
2. Who owns the copyright to Mambo?
The copyright to Mambo is held by Miro International Pty Ltd. Miro were the original authors of Mambo and continue to actively support the project.
Now, if ya'll remember not so long ago the huge spin those varmits put into transferrin' their copyright to their "Foundation", for the good of all. Seems they've forgotten about that move already...

Into the backend and there's a few changes here from the old team's unreleased version. For a start, they included mosCE as the new editor. This seems to be the cause of this new version being more than twice the size, and if ya ask me that is pretty durn bloated for a content editor. Also a wee bit overcomplicated for most:

Looky at all those tabs, and that's just for the editor!

The odd thing, the really odd thing here folks, is that the developer of this extension to Mambo apparently doesn't support the Miro development at all. In fact on the front page of his site he declares full support for the core team's split and says that MosCE will not be supported for Miro's Mambo:

"So, how will this affect mosCE? Well, for starters, I fully support the actions of the developers. I believe it is the best course of action in the interests of Open Source, Mambo and free software. With that in mind, mosCE will no longer be available for the 'old' Mambo as of 1.0 Stable. There will however be a bugfix release some time next week to fix som eof the major reported problems, released as mosCE 1.0 RC3 for the mambot, and mosCE Admin 1.0 RC4 for the component.

From what I understand, the first release of this as yet unamed CMS will be fully compatible with all existing modeules, components and mambots.

As I don't have the time or the energy to support what may become to different CMS platforms, I have to pick one. On principle, I have decided to support the 'new' CMS."

It seems quite likely from this statement that this community developer has no association with his program being sucked into the new Miro 4.5.3.

Is this the kind of low-down action we should expect from the new Miro development process? Are they going to further take advantage of open source to simply turn Mambo into a hulking beast created from incorporating the hard work of others? Seems rightly so, pilgrims...

Oh yeah, I can hear some of you already gettin ready to rant on about the wonders of Open Source and how it's there for the takin', but hey, they could at least notify the guy they're adding his code to their CMS against his will.

Dirty no-good snakes...

So what else have we here? Well, there's a new way of havin' a look-see at your content now, which looks purty but would be a pain for larger sites, I expect. A "tree menu" that expands and shows you your sections and categories. The problem being if ya'll have hundreds of the little blighters your page is goin' to take some time to load...

Another new gadget is the Mambo Updater, that takes your ftp details and then updates straight to your site. Well, at this point, I don't rightly think I trust that lil devil...

So, I've had a long day on the frontier and maybe this here lowdown on the new Miro 4.5.3 is a bit low on actual content but hey, give an ol' cowboy a break. I'm sure ya'll could have a look-see and find all those bugs I been hearin' about. Surely this is one rushed job from the Miro camp...

Ya know what they said about the hare and the tortoise, the tortoise is slow and wins the race, and the hare is right tasty after it's been char-grilled. Yum.

There's a hoedown on the lowdown right over on the new OSM forums right now about this, plenty of good info bein' shared in those parts, if you wanna know more I recommend it highly.

Thankye kindly for readin',

The Lone Mamber


Tuesday, August 23, 2005

Miro shakes in boots, removes content...

Now, this could be one of those coincidences, but after my last post about the change of authorship of content at the ol' homestead Miro have removed that content completely. In much the same way they did with the gallery showcase, seems like this is the way they like to deal with such things.

Are they becomin' wiser to their ways? Well, given what's gone down so far, that seems unlikely. Are they shakin' in their boots? Maybe. Then again it's possible they've had to take action on advice from their sharks... er... legal eagles, them seem to try to get away with just about anything once before they flip-flop after someone points out just how stupid lookin' their frilly shirts are. You know, it's quite plain to see you can't get around in fancy clothes in these parts just by claimin' it's your gangs label.

Could be they'll reconsider their harsh invasion of privacy of some people's accounts on the ol' home of the community forums as well, altho their attitude till now suggests they could care less.

Of course, not all content over at the old home of mambo has been affected. Author of the recent slashdotted "20 questions with Miro" propaganda, Ric Shreves, has also written quite a bit of content over there and his ramblings remain untouched.

It'd be pure speculation of a paranoid ol' cowboy to suggest Mr. Shreves had any connection with Miro, now wouldn't it pilgrims.

Ah, crazy times folks, crazy times.


Shenanigans at the ol' homestead!

Seems things have been movin' about, vanishin' and changin' here and there over at the ol' homestead of the project formerly known as Mambo, mamboserver.com. Surely they must have a hauntin' over there or some such, right oddly goings on of late.

For starters there's an update from mjjsource.com, who I've now heard news they did in fact tell Miro to remove their site from the gallery and all PR associated with them varmits that have taken over the fine piece of software we know and love.

Indeed I can only speculate that this demand from MJJ Source caused so much fear in the black hearts of lily livered Lamont's gang that they took down the entire gallery, worried other showcase sites would begin protestin' against the actions of these snakes of the open source world.

That's just speculation mind, and I might add a fair whack of anythin' a Miro supporter might find on these here pages would be seen as parody by the law. Just thought ya'll might want to know that, Mr. Lamont.

Anyway, my ol' cowboy paranoia aside, there have been other odd changes at the ranch.

It appears that the new gang are movin' in on the content on mamboserver, adding themselves as authors and such. Although it also seems like these sideshow clowns don't even know how to use the software they've just taken over in this coup.

For example, Brian Teeman, member of the core team of the project formerly known as mambo, left a blurb about his travels to Thailand late last year. It's still there, so all well and good. Exceptin' this, Brian's travel article now seems to have been written by someone by the name of "Travis Fraser".

Now that would be quite bewilderin' to anyone who comes along to have a read, that all this content built up over time by the ol' team is now somehow written by people we've never heard of. Oh yeah, there's plenty more on there.

Now, giving the varmits at Miro the benefit of the doubt, and I'm bein' mighty generous doin' so, this looks just like they've changed existin' accounts into the names of their staff members.

Much like the way they did with the head moderator's account at the ol' forums, when they not only took control of the forum they took a private pilgrim's account and used it to misinform the community, as well as ban other community member's accounts and delete their messages. They had full access to his private messages and the works, pilgrims.

Not what you'd call the actions of anyone familiar with ethics or morals, I'd say.

Makes me even sicker than last week when I was sicker than that time I had to eat my boots. Think I'll go boil me up a chamomile tea.

Thankye kindly for readin',

The Lone Mamber

p.s. By the by, for the few of ya'll that are here with bad intentions and too much spare time now ya'll have resigned from some position or other, this new fangled gadget does keep track of your IP. Troll these parts again and you'll have hell to pay.


Monday, August 22, 2005

Waddya reckon, pilgrims?

Well, I've waited until ya'll left more than a hundred votes for each poll, now seems like a good enough time to have the lowdown on what ya'll are feelin'.

Now firstly, it's mighty apparent these ol' surveys aint completely serious and put up mostly in the spirit of fun, but the results I'm sure will still be interestin' for some.

Firstly, I asked ya'll:

Do ya trust them varmints at Miro?
Hell no!
98 Votes 78.4%
They could be on the level. 16 Votes 12.8%
Why sure! I love snake oil! 11 Votes 8.8%

Trust at this point in time is an important part of whether the pilgrims are gonna accept the law put down by the new gang in town. That's Miro, if ya'll are doubtful of my meaning.

Out of 125 voters, 98 of you said "Hell no!". Now I'm sure there's been a few of the Miro faithful thru these parts, so that number aint no thing to laugh at. No, seems the actions of Mr. Lamont and co have not garnered much trust at all.

16 of you believe Miro could be on the level, that's mighty generous I'm sure.

Now, funnily enough, eleven trust Miro enthusiastically and what's more they love snake oil. Those would be those faithful Miro supporters my new fangled IP tracker has been tellin' me about...

Do ya reckon Mambo should have a commercial license?
Hell no!
92 Votes 83.64%
Not sure... 11 Votes 10%
Why sure! I love highway robbery! 7 Votes 6.36%

Ok, in my rush to get these gadgets up and workin, the wordin of the polls may not be identical. Give an ol' cowboy a break ;)

This poll was regardin' a comment Mr. Lamont made during the initial community pow-wow about the Foundation, "...to sever ties between Miro and Mambo by providing the foundation with their own unique license which allows them to continue to release Mambo as free software under the GPL." This rightly triggered much concern amongst the community, as it did seem at the time to indicate there was something unique about the Foundation having a GPL license for Mambo. Surely this, and history, could imply Miro would attempt their own seperate license.

Now it would seem that those fears are unfounded. It would seem that way, but who can say what dastardly plans Mr. Lamont and his posse are concocting beneath their layer of hogwash...

To the results:

One hundred and ten of ya'll put your word on this and this poll was more definitive, even amongst the Miro faithful it would seem.

A staggering 92 said "Hell no!" to the thought of there being a commercial Mambo release. I wonder if any of the Miro posse popped in to see that, altho surely it would be obvious to them now they have to be real careful with their propaganda in future.

Eleven were not sure about this question, quite probably due to them only poppin' by to have a chuckle at my bad cowboy rhetoric.

Seven were all for the idea of highway robbery. I reckon they're probably under the employ of the Lamont gang, could be this old cowboy is gettin' paranoid tho. If ya'll voted for the "Why sure!" camp and have no link to Miro and can prove it, leave a comment.

Finally, we mosie on to the last poll...

Who do you support?
The core dev team!
108 Votes 90.76%
Whoever wins! 9 Votes 7.56%
Miro! I love mutiny! 2 Votes 1.68%

This one is surely the most important of the bunch. In these unsure times, who do you in the community support?

Well, this one is quite frankly surprisin'...

Out of one hundred and nineteen votes, one hundred and eight support the core dev team that have split off from Miro. That could be expected, altho it sorta does imply that some who trust Miro still support the core in their action.

Nine of ya'll are just scallywags sittin' on the fence and waitin' to take a side, shame on ya'll!

Only TWO declared that they support Miro due to their love of mutiny. Well, at least they could choose a side and be honest about it. Altho it aint unlikely that those two was donkey votes.

So, there ya go, the voting so far on these quite silly polls. Makes a break from the monotony of reading twenty questions and answers of complete bullshit, no don't it?

Thankye kindly ya'll for stickin to yer guns,

The Lone Mamber


Saturday, August 20, 2005

Turncoat Castley resigns from Foundation

The thlot pickens over at Miro's Mambo Foundation, pilgrims...

Earlier in my reportin' I wrote that we all hope Mr. Castley was a somewhat innocent party to these shenanigans, that somehow he may have come into this mutiny with his eyes wide shut.

Well, it surely seems that way now for Robert Castley has resigned from the board of the Foundation. Yesterday his account on the official forums was apparently deleted, altho a similar thing happened when Robert left the project early this year. Late last year? Ah, this ol' cowboy just has a memory like a sieve.

Anyway, an announcement by core team Public Relations member Brian Teeman on the official forums revealed that the ex-leader of the project formerly known as Mambo has indeed resigned from the Foundation:
"I think that you will find that now that robert has found out the whole story behind this foundation that he has RESIGNED from it.

Knowing Robert from his time in mambo and knowing all too well the huge number of hours he put into mambo from the very first days that Miro abandoned it to sourceforge, I am sure that Robert would never have become involved in the Foundation if he had not been led to believe that it was for the good of the community etc.

The reaction to the foundation by the community and the subsequent relevation that the foundation had been created in a manner in contradiction to that previoulsy discussed and decided upon by the mambo Steering committee has I'm sure been a shock and a revelation to Robert.

Congratulations to Robert for being strong enough to see the truth and to take the honorable course of resigning from a foundation that was not in the best interests of the community or the project.

I wonder who Miro will sucker into sitting on the board now. The two chosen ones, Andrew Eddie and robert Castley have both refused to be involved. As for Mr Jim Begley, a merger and aquisitions specialist I wonder what his true motives are for being involved in mambo."
This surely clinches the motives of the Foundation for any of ya'll who till this point were still clingin' to the belief that all is well in Mambo town. The only member of the so-called Foundation board who had any right bein' there, has skidaddled. Vamoosed. Other such cowboy slang cliches concernin' makin' a quick escape.

One thing I quite rightly think about this here eventuation', happens to be this:

Robert Castley joined this Foundation, he supported it right up until it was plainly obvious that it had failed. I'd still like to think he's an innocent party to this debacle, but think about it folks. This was a man who left the project in the lurch, and his team members, although for apparently good reasons.

Besides that, I'm sure the core team considered Mr. Castley as a good friend for a long time, yet leading up to and durin' this horrible turn of events it did not seem he made one iota of effort to get in touch with them directly to see what was goin' on. Never mind that he totally abandoned his fellow former collaborators in this recent time for what were his own visions for a project he had left, no matter how good were his intentions.

Call me a cynical old cowboy, but hey, if an outsider like yours truly can suss out the motivation of Miro and see how things were turnin' out... Why couldn't the former head of the project?

Why I'd think twice before lettin' such a dubious character step back up into the new project, I'd think twice and then three times, then one one more time for good measure. From where I come from, we ride these folks outta town where they can do some serious thinkin', before we just let 'em back into the posse where they can easily get a bead on ya in the next showdown.

I'll let ya'll make your own conclusions.


Friday, August 19, 2005

MJJ Source Tell Miro To Beat It!

Well pardners, this has to be the biggest sign of support for the core team and the new community that's formin' around them. Surely it don't get no bigger than... Michael Jackson!

That's right folks, on this day the official Michael Jackson site, MJJ Source changed their site credits to show their support for the move the core team has made to split from Miro.

This site has been developed using the open source software formerly called Mambo. This is a full-featured content management system that can be used for everything from simple websites to complex corporate applications. Currently this software is being rebranded by the developer's team.

I had a look-see earlier today and saw the now completely Miro controlled mamboserver.com has removed the 'gallery of mambo sites' page, quite likely 'cos of this move by MJJ Source and maybe other sites listed in that showcase...

This here's just the beginning folks, right now if you're behind this movement to support the core dev team and the new project, do your bit to keep spreadin' the word, and mosie on over to Open Source Matters. Let's turn this ol' dance into a stampede.

And Miro - it's too late to change the time, and there's blood on the dancefloor, aint no-one here dancin' to mambo no more...


Thursday, August 18, 2005

The Sh...Slashdot hits the fan

My oh my, take a short break from the hectic activities of this debacle, and the whole world decides to take notice!

Sure enough, our friends over at Slashdot have noticed what's goin' down here and posted some news about our plight. The discussion over there is quite heated as well and it seems that rightly so many of ya'll like the grass on our side of the fence.

The new community based site setup by the core team to cater for "the community devoted to the cms formerly known as Mambo" managed to brace itself through the storm of slashdotting newshounds, and I'm quite sure the team is much obliged for the support.

As well, in only about 24 hours the new community forum has garnered 500 members, and that's startin' from nothin', pilgrims...

Looks like we've got an old fashioned revolution on our hands here, but this aint no time to have a siesta to celebrate. Read on to get the lowdown on what's happened to the Mambo project, and do all you can to spread the word to the world!

Thankye kindly for poppin' by,

The Lone Mamber


Wednesday, August 17, 2005

MIRO FAQ (or how to confuse your community)

It just gets worse. Miro are obviously out to promote their wacko Foundation setup before the news of the world crashes down and knocks down their house of cards. The site itself is full of the kinda typo's even an old cowboy like meself wouldn't fall victim to, and is quite plainly a rush job...

But let's have a quick look at their new fangled FAQ, particularly what I assume must have been added at the last minute:

Q – Will the current Mambo development team remain?

A – All people wishing to participate in Mambo are now required to be signed-up foundation Members and this includes the development team. As is the nature of Open Source projects, members of the dev team may decide to leave Mambo and they may take a fork of the Mambo project and continue to develop it to meet their needs and goals. Other developers interested in working for Mambo will take their place and the project will continue.

Of course, it's got nothing at all to do with Miro's formation of the Foundation that has brought about this rift with the development team. Those silly hard working, dedicated and community minded core team members are just upset and of course they will become members of the Foundation and continue to work on a project that has been completely usurped by shallow cafe culture snakes...

It's much more likely the quite solid and dedicated core team will depart to create a better way of developing and catering to the community, away from the clutches of Miro.

Wait, Miro have already got an answer to this in the FAQ!

Q – If the previous team leaves, will they still be developing a version of Mambo?

A – The previous development team is always free to take a copy of the Mambo source code to develop their own product. However, they will not be able to refer to their project as 'Mambo' or include the word Mambo in their project's name, as the trademark is globally owned by Miro who has only granted its use to the Foundation.

They're already the previous development team? Oh, why thankye for being so obliging as to tell us that. I'm sure the statement by the team didn't quite indicate that as they're still getting legal advice from reputable lawyers and not the sharks that those antipodeon varmits are probably getting their advice from.

So they won't be able to call a branch of their own project Mambo, eh? Well, you know that it is actually just a word, don't you Miro? I reckon there are precedents for that.

Anyway, Miro, you're making yourselves look mighty stupid and presently millions of concerned open source community members and media from around the globe are going to be able to see plainly just how far gone your convoluted plans are.

So goodbye Miro, hello independence!


Information Superhighway Robbery!

Well, ignoring the many questions of the community and the core development team's statement that they want nothing to do with Miro's Foundation, Miro has gone and launched the site anyway.

Oh yes, and they've gone right over the top to make it all appear above board and professional like. Why, it could almost be the Mambo Corporation taking a look at what they've setup here.

As some younger members of the community will be sure to say "OMG WTF?!?!"

Let's take a tour through the new Foundation shall we?

Firstly there is a blurb on the front page proclaiming the wonders of the Mambo software and our community. Never mind that the community is outraged and the developers of the software have denounced this Foundation. Never mind that.

At the end of this blurb, we're urged to become a member of the Foundation. Ah, why not, maybe $50 and we can vote out Mr. Lamont! Wrong...

Just to begin with, there is an interesting term of membership for all members:

1. Express public support for the Mambo Foundation and the Mambo Project.

No more dissent in this community, well, not in this Foundation. Oh no, complain and be cast out!

Then there are several levels of membership:

"Strategic Member"
Strategic Members are companies that work with Mambo either as a users developing websites, or that include Mambo as a part of their own offering. They are companies that view Mambo as an important part of their corporate, product or services strategy, and who want to participate in the development of the Mambo Project.

Ok, so who would fit into this category? Well, basically anyone that wants to appear to be a team working on developing mambo sites, or CMTs (components, modules and templates). Anyone who feels that they're image doing this is important enough to pay:

The annual membership fee for Strategic Members is US$50,000.
That's right. Fifty. Thousand. Big ones. Maybe a quarter of one percent of the dev teams using Mambo at the moment could afford that kind of promotional outlay. Because it really seems that is all it is.

Oh no, wait a moment! There are benefits for paying 50 grand for that kind of membership to this club:

Each Strategic Member has a representative on the Mambo Foundation Board of Regents allowing them to have a say in the strategic direction of Mambo. Strategic Members may also have a seat on the Mambo Steering Committee providing input and influence over the themes and priorities in Mambo.

In addition, Strategic Member companies may lead one or more of the Mambo open source projects and have representation on the Mambo developer team. This allows Strategic Members to have direct input into the development and architecture of Mambo.

Ah, now I see. Give us $50K and you can tell the core developers what to do, not that there are any associated with this Foundation currently. For a measly fifty thousand dollars, you can have a big handle on the project, to turn whichever way you see fit.

Now doesn't that just empower the community! Good work Mr Begley!

Now we come to Third Party Developers (3PD). That's the average joe doing their best to create extensions for Mambo in their own time, commercially or more usually open source.

The "qualifications" for this category are interesting:
A third party develper (3PD) company must have a Mambo-based offering or commit to making such an offering available within 12 months of joining the Mambo Foundation. In addition, 3PD members are required to publicly announce their support for Mambo.

Ok, so on joining the Foundation, you must commit to making an product of some sort within a year and never say diddly against the mighty Miro Mambo Foundation.

Wonderful. All this for only...
The annual membership fee for Third-Party Developer members is US$1,000.
Well, I can tell ya right now, I'm a 3PD and you can take that offer and shove it Mr Lamont.

One thousand dollars, for what?

Membership in the Mambo Foundation allows organizations to leverage the resources of the community and achieve a higher return on their investment in Mambo. Mambo Foundation members are offered a unique opportunity to understand the trends and directions of the core Mambo system and participate in marketing programs that drive potential users to the member's offerings.

Marketing clap trap that's of no use to anyone, especially seeing as these varmits have practically killed the project dead in it's tracks with their philanderings!

And what? Developers pay this money so they can say they're paying members? What happened to the proposal of enforcing legitimacy by creating accreditation?

I suppose that's going to cost even more on top of that. Hurrah.

Then there's "Active Members" and "Associate Members" and "Ordinary Members", which are free, but so full of all kinds of mumbo jumbo and claptrap that I can barely stand to even think about it. Feel free to pop over there and read it for yourself.

Makes me sicker than when I had to eat me own boots...


Miro owns your forum...

Well, it seems indeed my worse fears have been realised.

A quick check on the official Mambo community forum shows that the head moderator and core team member, known as mamboguy, has been completely deleted.

Surely this is only the first of a series of low blows from the Miro camp, those hornswagglers will do just about anything to hold onto their hats right now apparently.

Still Miro have not come forward with any notice of what they're up to or a response to the very level headed statement from the core development team. From what's goin' down right now, it would seem that the core team could be considered fired from Miro's project...

Maybe I've got it all wrong, but these do not seem to be times for small measures from Miro International.

Thankfully the team that has brought us one of the best CMS packages in the world is smarter than those varmits all hopped up on too much caffeine. An independent forum and site for discussion of the place the Mambo community has found it self in suddenly, has been established in the outlands away from the influence of Miro.

We have to remember one thing here, Open Source Matters and we can't let people mess with it.


No news is good news...

Why, shortly after the core team's response this mornin', seems like some kindly person linked up a news post from the official Mambo news site to this here humble blog!

Of course, as you'd expect, only about a dozen pilgrims made their way over here before someone on the Miro side of the fence pulled the plug on the news link.

At this point in time, it'd be fair to wonder what kinda power struggle may be goin' down now. Would Miro International be lily livered enough to actually start taking away the rights of the team of core admins and such that have run our community sites for so many years?

I'd say it's quite rightly possible, pilgrims, and if that's the case we all gotta make our stand now while we still can...

But hey, for a news post to go on there at all and then be yanked off by those Miro varmits, well surely that means they know the Lone Mamber is makin' a stand here and maybe they're even shakin' in their booties a wee bit.

All I can say is, Mr Lamont, if ya'll are readin' this, I'm callin' you out dude. Twenty paces in main street at high noon, or are ya too yella to show yer smug mug in these parts?

We'll have to wait and see.


Showdown at the O/S Corral...

Well pilgrims, seems our core team haven't just been countin' their toes this past week. Oh no, from the likes of what they've just announced, it seems I'm not the only one who's got a hankering to call out a posse on Miro.

Surely by now it's plain to to the community that those bushwackers in Miro have been takin' us all for a ride. Some have pointed this out in brighter times and been toasted on the fire for such talk, but now I reckon we can all see that these antipodean miscreants aint here for us at all.

Here's the announcement that's just been posted by the core team members:

Mambo Open Source Development Team - Letter to the community

Much has been said about the Mambo Open Source project and the establishment of the Mambo Foundation to benefit the future of Mambo.

We, the core development teams, unanimously believe:

  • An open source project is about people producing free and open software and contributing to something as a team for the benefit of others.
  • Open source projects reflect the spirit of collaboration and fun while garnering community feedback and providing good governance that allows for business to confidently invest in its development.
  • Open source projects are open to the participation of anybody who can contribute value and is willing to work with the community.

We, the development team, have serious concerns about the Mambo Foundation and its relationship to the community. We believe the future of Mambo should be controlled by the demands of its users and the abilities of its developers. The Mambo Foundation is designed to grant that control to Miro, a design that makes cooperation between the Foundation and the community impossible.

  • The Mambo Foundation was formed without regard to the concerns of the core development teams. We, the community, have no voice in its government or the future direction of Mambo. The Mambo Steering Committee made up of development team and Miro representatives authorized incorporation of the Foundation and should form the first Board. Miro CEO Peter Lamont has taken it upon himself to incorporate the Foundation and appoint the Board without consulting the two development team representatives, Andrew Eddie and Brian Teeman.
  • Although Mr. Lamont through the MSC promised to transfer the Mambo copyright to the Foundation, Miro now refuses to do so.

What we will do: We will continue to develop and improve a version of this award-winning software project currently released under the GNU General Public License. We wish Miro and the Mambo Foundation well and regret that we are not able to work with them.

We have retained the Software Freedom Law Center to advise us in this matter and will release more information about our short-term plan in the near future.

This is surely a definitive statement from a united core team. It seems I'm not the only one who's fed up and not gonna take it any more.

What does this all mean? Reading between the lines I'd say that Miro have been told to crawl back up where the sun don't shine and do what they like with their precious copyrights, trademarks and corporate strategies...

Oh yeah, this aint no "yes mister, can I polish your boots with my tongue mister" response. This is the start of a new revolution for the Mambo community, time to sever ties with these Miro varmits and set forth into the new frontier to make our own lands.

Surely now is the time to make a stand and let the world know how we're feelin' about this.

Now how long dya reckon it'll be before lily livered Lamont comes out of his hidey hole and has a self righteous rant about just how ungrateful we all are. Awww, kinda feel sorry for the guy...

Actually not... So, who's up for a good ol' fashioned gallows buildin' party? Yee-ha!


The long wait before dawn...

Well, the past days have been a mite quiet, Foundation board members stopped replying to the community's queries and all that's goin' on now is mild debate between a few who still hope for an answer...

It's a darn shame it's come to this, the idea of an open source Foundation don't rightly have to be a bad one. Surely if it had been open as the prairie and as clear as the night time sky in the desert, instead of as muddied as... well.. mud... Things might have been different, if only there wasn't so much out and out greed involved.

So it seems all we can do now is wait...

The guy Peter Lamont invited over for coffee has left a comment here though, it seems he's planning to spring an ambush on the Miro offices with a bunch of questions passed on from the community. Who knows if this ploy will garner anything that Mr Lamont hasn't already let slip, but it's worth a try. So good luck with that, pardner.

Another member of the community, who wishes to remain unknown, sent over his contribution to the cause. A few tongue-in-cheek protest banners ya'll can whack on your websites to let the world know we aint gonna take no tomfoolery from these Miro varmits without a fight.

As you can see, the ol' mambo flower is somewhat deflated, with Miro in the traditional mambo style. Well, it's less wacky than this here page, so if ya'll want to stick it on your page, or even on a t-shirt, click and save away.

If ya'll have any ideas to contribute to the cause, feel free to leave a comment here or contact The Lone Mamber directly at lonemamberATgmail.com

That's all for now, although I'm sure there'll be somethin' more to ramble on soon enough.

Fingers crossed and guns loaded, pilgrims...


Monday, August 15, 2005

Foundation... and empire

August 11th. A landmark day for Mambo.

Takin' out the Best Open Source Solution at the LinuxWorld Expo, beatin' even the world famous Firefox project to win the award. This should have been a great day of celebration for the Mambo open source community...

On this same day, another announcement was made on the official Mambo site, before the award news could even be posted to the wider community. An announcement made not by the Mambo team themselves, but from their benevolent benefactors Miro International.

Foundation. Proclaiming a brand new open source Foundation organisation to take care of the Mambo community, to administer the project, for the good of all.

Or so it would seem to the innocent pilgrim crossing the plains into the lands of Mambo.

To those of us that have weathered the years through thick and thin, however, an old saying comes to mind - white man have forked tongue.

Peter Lamont: Aint he just the perfect picture of "smug"?

For this new fangled contraption, this Foundation to save us all from ourselves, was setup by none other than the big wig of Miro - Peter Lamont. Oh yeah, this guy was sittin' pretty on the throne of the Foundation, self inducted to the position and with a hand picked posse of board members at the ready.

Why such cynical remarks I hear the uninformed among you cry? Well, after such a remarkable announcement, not a core team member to be sayin' a word about it. Oh no, these were times to chew the cud and wonder what the jiminy is goin' on, for it sure aint no time to be celebratin'.

How could it have come to this...


This is not my beautiful house!

So how could such a successful project have come to such a quandary?

Well, this is a long and twisted tale, my friends, and one that sure enough I'll make soup out of. If you bear with me, I'll do my best to explain it as I see it.

You see, the origins of Mambo could be said to be somewhat muddied. Way back in 2000 a small web app company in the antipodes, Miro Construct (I know, it's an odd name), created their own CMS in the boom time of such contraptions.

Mambo Site Server, the great grandaddy of the Mambo we all know and love, created commercially. Yes, that's right, it wasn't born into open source, it grew into it.

Hey, looky what they had before that new fangled "mamboflower"!

Apparently, this company decided that the best way to test their new commercial enterprise was to release it onto the open source community. That's what I said, they originally changed the license to open source solely to garner a group of testers for their product...

What follows is a wierd and wonky journey through a partnership between out and out capitalist cafe culture varmits and a small team of hardworking open source developers.

But don't take my word for it, let's see what the ring leader of these shenanigans has to say about the history of Mambo, the following are the words of Peter Lamont in this thread on the Mambo forums.

[1] Miro develops Mambo and uses it to build websites in 2000.
[2] Miro releases Mambo (MOS) when it is in version 3 under the GNU GPL as open source in April 2001.
[3] From April 2001 to mid 2002, Miro is the only developer of MOS and contributes bug-fixes and security patches.
[4] During 2001 Miro continues to develop the commercial iteration of Mambo.
[5] Miro calls the next commercial version of Mambo "Mambo 2002" and releases it in January 2002. Mambo 2002 and MOS still very similar.
[6] Miro is contacted by Robert Castley who is eventually appointed as project director mid 2002
[7] Robert takes over development of version 3 of MOS and progresses it to version 4 beta.
[8] Early April 2003 Andrew Eddie joins dev team
[9] End April 2003 Robert resigns from position due to day-job pressure.
[10] Early May 2003 Miro announces it will withdraw the Mambo code for bug fixing and security patches and assigns two internal programmers. Miro also announces that due to the public abusing Mambo's copyright and ignoring the GPL under which it was licensed, it will seek to find an alterative open source license which is clearer in its intent. Under pressure from the community, Miro completes its work quickly and forgoes any further review of the license in order to get the Mambo project running again.
[11] Miro convinces Robert to resume his role which he accepts.
[12] MOS 4.5 started shortly after, sweeping architectural and schema
changes made by Andrew Eddie at this time
[13] Miro starts work re-writing a CMS which extends and refines the ideas of Mambo 2002 and calls it Mambo CMS. Mambo CMS and MOS are entirely different at this point.
[14] Miro releases Mambo CMS in August 2003.
The claim by Miro is that Mambo Open Source and their commercial Mambo have never shared any code. Doncha think this is highly unlikely, considering?

Interestingly, Mambo Open Source was withdrawn completely by Miro in 2003, just before the release of their latest incantation of the commercial variant. Here's what the man with the plan has to say about that, in the same thread:

"As the owner of Mambo it was our prerogative to re-issue and re-license the software as we saw fit. Users we distributed the software to on the other hand, may not, and that it what you mistakenly refer to. Evidence of this abounds in the open source community where refinements are made to better relect the needs of the project. During the time the code was being cleaned up, we could not find a license that was in the spirit of open source software yet more clearly worded. In the end we released it back under the GPL which was, as tonyskyday mentioned, exactly what we said we would so."
At this point, even though there had been contributors to Mambo Open Source from outside Miro, Mr. Lamont was still under the impression the license was there to do with what he liked. Under the law of open source GPL, this is plainly not the case. The snake!

He further shows his true colours with this statement, again in the same thread:

"Actually the issue of which license was utimately chosen came down to time and experience in these matters. We deferred to the GPL once again because of the very issues of contributed code.

Anyone who remembers that time will also recall the enormous criticism we faced when we withdrew the code to be reworked. We did not have the luxury of time to instruct our legal counsel to review all available licenses or to develop our own and get approval. We were under the pump to get the work done and get the code back out there as quickly as possible to avoid the project splitting. In the end we chose the GPL as the safest option."
So it would seem that the high and mighty open source ideals that Miro claims, the true reason Mambo is now GPL and not some other crazy license, is because it was the safest option...

The plot thickens...


What a tangled thread we weave...

How come ya'll know so much about these happenings, I hear you ask? Well, besides being a quietly dedicated mamber (member of the Mambo community), I've been reading the announcement discussion thread on the official forums.

It's this that has started alarm bells ringing for even the most die hard supporters of the alliance between Miro and Mambo. Well, perhaps not the most die hard, because that little group is quite plainly as mad as a cut snake, but don't take my word for it.

Here be some choice quotes from said thread, spiced up with some commentary from yours truly. Hey, them's fancy words!

Firstly, from Jim Begley, one of the newly appointed Foundation board members:

"The reason the post was made by the Foundation, and by Peter Lamont, as chairman, was because it was announcing its incorporation, something the Mambo core team has been considering for some time. The reason the announcement did not come from the core development team is that the Foundation board has a different makeup than the development team. Some of the board members come from Miro, some come from the Mambo project, and others, like me, come from the software industry. Each member of the board was selected based on what they can bring to the project.

On the topic of community involvement, the Foundation is based on community involvement and empowerment. Our goal is to bring the community deeper into the process of steering Mambo to your needs. We also want to reward those members that contribute to the Mambo community with additional benefits. There is structure to all of this, but a democratic process requires this. More will be announced on this over the next few weeks."
Ah, this sounds all well and good, what a nice man. A comment from Robert Castley, first man on the job for the original open source Mambo project and also a board member (oh yes, he's back!):

"To back up the comments from Jim, the Foundation is a completely seperate entity to Miro. I repeat ... no ties with Miro."
Now for something completely contradictory from Peter Lamont, just a few posts below:

"In answer to an earlier post, laws are meant to create freedom, who ever heard of an effective self-regulating body? The foundation simply puts a process in place and gives members a democratic right to have their say in accordance with the rules of association. Those rules and other documentation will be on the foundation site in due course. If you really want to have a say in the Mambo foundation, be a member and contribute.

In answer to an even earlier post; The foundation was an idea put to me by members of the dev team early this year. After long consideration I decided to choose my own board members from the community based on what I felt was a good mix of skill, management experience and a love of Mambo and to sever ties between Miro and Mambo by providing the foundation with their own unique license which allows them to continue to release Mambo as free software under the GPL."
Oh boy... This is the start of several bombshells to drop from the gullet of the man on the throne.

Mr. Begley asserts that the Foundation is based on community involvement and empowerment. Now Mr. Lamont lets us know that he is not only the Chairman of the Foundation, but he also hand selected each member of the board. The community never heard about any of this leading up to the announcement, and had no say in the selection or formation of this... club.

That's about as empowering as being buried upside down in the sand with honey on your unmentionables.

Then Jim Begley gives us all a reassurance that all is well, even though for some reason none of the core development team have come forward with any comment:

"I can appreciate your wanting to hear from the core dev team. However, there actions should not be your guide in having confidance in the foundation or not. You need to consider how the project 1) fits your needs, 2) is something you want to be active in 3) is structured in a way that rewards and supports you for your contributions. I don't pretend that you will have all of the information to make those decisions yet, I just think they should be made on a personal basis."
Ah yes, we shouldn't even care what the core team think! We should trust in our benevolent saviours Miro International. Oh did I mention that they "saved" Mambo from the evil threat of Brian Connolly last year? No wait... Here's what Peter Lamont had to say about that in an interview on Mamboserver.

"Connolly’s claims have been shown to be baseless. Further, he has been uncovered as a person who takes delight in twisting facts and using the media to attack anyone or anything he take a disliking to."
Well gee willickers, that sure does sound like some threat! Lucky they did save us all from his wrath.

Anyways, back to it:

"Finally, on fearing change. It is natural. We expect it. We also expect that we need to earn your trust, and we are prepared to do that. Like any relationship, it will take a little time to earn it. In the meantime, keep asking questions. We will keep on sharing as well. We have a FAQ that will be posted shortly that will be a big help, and it will be updated as we hear questions we have not thought of."
Mr Begley again, this time telling us that the Foundation expect us to be afraid. How thoughtful! This was on the 12th of August, a day after the announcement. Mind, the most pertinent questions haven't been answered even now, and the Foundation board members stopped sharing entirely yesterday. But we'll get to that...

Robert Castley steps in with a big nugget of wisdom:

"If Dr. Evil (Miro) had their Mojo stolen then as it stands today there would be no MamboForge, mamboserver.com, news.mamboserver.com, help.mamboserver.com, no flights to Expos etc. Why? Because they currently fund and financially manage (with the aid of donation, sponsership and advertising) the lot (incl. legal expenses in setting up the Foundation). Yes, that's right the lot. The community at large would be at a huge loss. Resources that are invaluable today to everyone would be gone. None of us surely want that to happen? Every ship needs a captain, every army needs a general. Too many chiefs and not enough indians would be the downfall of Mambo."
Miro fund everything, and we can't possibly get along without them. Oh, except of course for all those donations, sponsorship and advertising that the project brings in by itself. And Miro are paying the legal expenses for setting up the Foundation? Now that's right kindly of them now aint it.

Too many chiefs and not enough indians? Why, Mr Castley must be from out here in the old west as well! Go figure. I think he's a bit mixed up however, too many chefs may spoil the broth, but you can never have too many chiefs. I mean, the more chiefs, the more tribes.

Then again, I guess if they create a nice Foundation to take care of all us injuns, they could even find a place out of their way for us to go about our daily lives...

The Mambo Reservation! Yee-haw!

"The Foundation allows for everything to be placed outside of Miro incl. Domain Names, hosting etc. The Foundation will even allow (in the future) for example, the members to vote and select who actually provides hosting if the members at large feel the service currently provided is inadequate."
Ah Robert, it's nice to hear the Foundation allows everything to be placed outside Miro, right now tho it's pretty much all owned by those guys isn't it. Ya'll can look it up on a domain whois and such.
Smug is as smug does.

"If you have a point of view or concern I suggest you join as a member and lobby your chosen board representative directly. How do you join? You'll have to wait until the board has met to decide the process. How much willit be? You'll have to wait until the board votes. Where is the foundation website? You'll have to wait until the board has met and decides to launch it. What effect will it have on 3PD and releases? The board will have to consider any proper proposals (not demands in the forums) made by the community members and vote. You don't like the board members? Vote 'em off. Get the picture? You want answers, you want to have a say. Be patient and get involved when the time comes."
Now we're getting to the real core of the man. Rude, arrogant, and well my mah would say this is one spoilt cookie. But to be fair, we should all be patient, pay our Foundation membership fees, and vote his sorry ass off that board as soon as possible.

Maybe I have him all wrong, after all, the nice man invited someone over for a coffee a few posts later:

"There are lot's of places an interested person could get involved and either contribute directly or lobby representatives and influence the direction. Now you're located in Melbourne I see; you can always come over for a coffee and a chat."
Although, if the Melbourne cafe culture makes you as smug as this guy, I may just give up coffee. Tomorrow. Maybe.

"I can not answer why the 'board' was pre-chosen and not elected Peter would be better answering that as he asked me if I would like to be on the board and after careful thought and consideration I accepted. Maybe it was the case the thought of allowing the public to elect the board was not even thought about. I personally didn't even think about it."
Mr. Castley, by this point apparently bewildered as to what exactly is going on in this gang he's joined up with. We'd like to think you're completely innocent in this, the man that kicked off the open source project, maybe you are. Maybe you also got a boost to your bank account recently.

Who can say? Your bank manager would know, I suppose.

Ah, such a guessing game this whole endeavour. I can only say it how I see it and hope ya'll can find the humour in such a dire circumstance such as we have come to. It aint even possible to say anything more definite than these ramblings o'mine, for neither side of the debate has really let on to what is going down...

Well, one side has surely been shovelling a lot more of something for public consumption.

Time will tell.


The calm before the storm...

Well, as I mentioned earlier, since yesterday there has been no word from the new Foundation board members on the official discussion thread.

We can only assume at this point that there is something going on behind closed doors, and perhaps these Miro varmits have bitten off slightly more than they can chew. Oh yeah, I'm sure that our heroes in the core aint goin' down without a fight.

Surely this debacle will make us all stronger and wiser for it, and possibly even teach certain Melbourne based cafe lounge lizards how to eat humble pie.

What should we in the community do now? Every bloody well thing we can think of to let the world know what's going down here, this is no time to sit back and hope for the best.

Open source is about all of us, not just some company that wants to make a buck off the passion of thousands of people.

Let the bastards know:

We've had enough, and we're not gonna take it any more!